Masud Olufani, an artist from Atlanta, and Maya Mansour, a model from Chicago, talk with Payam Zamani, Editor-in-chief at, about racism, immigration and why the wounds of racism take so long to heal. Their frank, challenging conversation cultivates a sense of urgency around healing the issues of race—not just as a theoretical supposition, but as a living, breathing reality we can all own.

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The opinions and views expressed in this article are those of the author only and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of or any institution of the Baha’i Faith.


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  • Coriolano Guarani-Kaiowá Correa
    Feb 11, 2018
    Excellent interview! We Baha'is must tackle this delicate issue courageously and frankly, without beating abt the bush.
  • Rosslyn and Steven Osborne
    Feb 11, 2018
    Thank you this is very good to listen to and think about.